LONGTERMER 2: 125th month report: Honda Civic FD2 2.0iS

LONGTERMER 2: 10th year and 5 months report: Honda Civic FD2 (Season 2, vol 4)

In this blog entry, I'm posting my Family's ride.  The Honda Civic FD
2 2.0 IVTEC.  I called it Season 2 volume 4 because I haven't been updating it for
 1 year and 5 months.  This is the 125th month we owned the Honda Civic FD2 2.0I-S.  

Update: 29 December 2018.  The Engine mounting, Compressor and Rear Double wishbones still factory fitted.  Though the Compressor showing signs of failure, intermittently blowing hot air.  How to take care of compressor (dad's tips):

1) Change your cabin filter every 20,000km
2) don't full blast the air cond, don't use Auto air-cond.  Dad's fave temperature 25 deg. Celsius at 1/3 fan speed.
3) Don't on the aircond for 1st 2km (Also off air-cond before ignition off)
4) When driving to Genting (uphill) off the air cond.  Blower only.

The reason why it hasn't been updated for 17 months is because there's very little things to write about.  Apparently, this is a Very Reliable car.  

My Colleague was surprised to learned that the Engine mountings and Rear Double Wishbones Suspensions are still Factory Fitted.  

His 5 years Old Elantra 1.6 already changed 1 set Engine Mountings and 1 set absorbers.  We stopped servicing with Honda on the 6th year owning the Civic.  Anyway for your reference, maintenance cost of the Civic FD2 without Hidden wear and tear stuff like Rear Wheel bearing, Absorbers, Brake pads.

Nothing much to update.  Firstly, The Good news.   Last year, I walked to Kah Motor CSL's just across the road to submit quotation.  Lo and behold, No LOADING.  Also, NO Betterment, use ORIGINAL parts, No Excess, 200km radius towing.  Agreed Value clause...  This package by MSIG is called HONDA INSURANCE PACKAGE.  

Click the link below for more information:

honda_insurance_package

Basically last year was the FINAL YEAR I get to enjoy HIP (Honda Insurance Package).  Thank God!  This year,  I decided to go 1 Up.  Bypass Kah Motor and renew Direct from MSIG Insurance.  I still don't get loading.  And I got 10% Discount!  

 The Civic FD have 1 oil change using Castrol magnatec and Original Honda Oil filter, 1 Brake fluid Change apart from Annual Road tax and Insurance renewal.  Very reliable and low maintenance car.   

Above: 450 litres boot space with 60:40 split folding rear seats (Below).

 

 This is the Only Generation Civic in Malaysia with 60:40 split fold rear seats.  The latest Civic FC have 60:40 split rear seats BUT in USA, Indonesia and Australia only.

Over the past 17 months, the Civic Clocked 9,858 only or 580km per month only.  It's rarely used as My dad, was working Oversea 1/2 of the year.  And I've been driving my Hyundai i10 daily.  RECENTLY, past 6 months, dad came back more often, hence using the Civic More frequent. 1 Penang drive, 2-3 outstation drive and Occasional Genting run.  

Minor trim wear and tear as below:

My opinion on this Honda Civic FD2 2.0S IVTEC:

The 8th generation Civic FD's the last Civic With Double wishbones suspension, only Civic with 60:40 split fold rear seat back and the Most stylish Civic inside out. This is the Best Civic.  Apparently, Malaysians agree with me as reflected by it's Strong Resale Value. First batch 2006 Civic FD are still selling at RM36,000 to RM42,000 depending on conditions. That's Mind boggling for a 12 years old Car.  An astounding 52% retained value in 8 years and 40% retained value in 10 years.   This is the reason why my dad's Keeping the Civic for another few years.

SHOULD YOU BUY A USED CIVIC FD?

Why not?

Honda Civic in General are Extremely tough cars.  The 1st 3-generations are victim to Rust only. Many Civic from the 4th generation EF onwards (1987 to 1991) are still running on Malaysian roads.  The 4th-Generation's where Rust-proofing extensively applied by Kah Motor.  There are Still many 5th and 6th generation on the road which are between 16 to 24 years old yet the EG (Dolphin) and EK (Taai Ngan Chai) still Desired by Ah Bengs.  Average lifespan of a Civic unless Total-loss or stolen are 20 years!!!  So say you bought a used 2008 model, on average the Civic FD can last you another 10-12 years.

Above: Note still Stock Standard 6-disc In-dash CD/MP3/WMA CD-Changer Head unit with Aux and Volume adjust according to Speed or Noise.  Eg. The higher the speed or engine noise, the higher the volume.  Also, Steering wheel Audio control. 

Without further ado, let's proceed to Logbook.

Purchase price: RM126,000 (less NCB)

Current value: RM51,000.

- 10 years depreciation: 40% retained value

Interest rate: PBB 2.35% (back in July 2008) for 6 years loan.

LAST INSTALLMENT: July 2014.  

Mileage last update: 145,300km. July 28 2017.

Mileage Today: 154,858km

Km used last 17 months:9,558km

Mileage per month: 563km  (12 month Average)

Average Mileage per month past 125 months: 1238km only.

FUEL CONSUMPTION (July 29, 2017 to December 29 2018):

Best: 14.7km/L  80% highway/20% city, driven by my dad Petronas RON95. 

WORST: 9km/L (Shell RON95) 80% City/20% Highway driving driven by ME.

Average FC: 11.3km/l

ALL TIME:

Best: 15.35km/l (RM0.12/km) (90% highway driving) (20 August 2010)

Worst: 7.1km/l (80% City driving, 20% HARD DRIVING) (October 27, 2012)

PERFORMANCE:

0-100km/h: 9.2 seconds normal acceleration (8.9 seconds with paddle-shift)

Top speed: Max I driven is 190km/h but I know it can go up to 227km/h. Someone from Youtube tried it.

EXPENSES Last 12 months:

1) Roadtax And Insurance Renewal: RM689.40 + 381.00 = RM1,070.40
2) 1 oil change.  Castrol magnatac (average 150 per oil change incl. Oil filter and Washer drain plug.

4) Petrol and Toll...

5) Other expenses... 

Before I go, here's my parting shot:

That's all folks, thanks for having the time and patience to read this blog entry.  An Original Jefferson Lim's production.  Copy like a man, don't plagiarize.

LONGTERMER 2: 9th year report: Honda Civic FD2 (Season 2, vol 3)

In this blog entry, I'm posting my Family's ride.  The Honda Civic FD2 2.0 IVTEC.  I called it Season 2 volume 3 because I haven't been updating it since July 29 2016.  This is the 9th year or 108th month we owned the Honda Civic FD2 2.0I-S.  

The reason why it hasn't been updated for 12 months is because there's very little things to write about.  Apparently, this is a Very Reliable car.  

My cousin was surprised to learned that the Engine mountings and Rear Double Wishbones Suspensions are still Factory Fitted.  

His 3 years Old Proton already changed 1 set Engine Mountings and 1 set absorbers.  We stopped servicing with Honda on the 6th year owning the Civic.  Anyway for your reference, maintenance cost of the Civic FD2 without Hidden wear and tear stuff like Rear Wheel bearing, Absorbers, Brake pads.

Nothing much to update.  Firstly, The Good news.  Last year, Allianz Insurance gave us 10% loading on premium.  This year, My company's Insurance only have Tune insurance WITH NO LOADING but got Betterment and only ONCE towing.  

As Kah Motor CSL's just across the road, I decided to walked to submit quotation.  Lo and behold, No LOADING.  Also, NO Betterment, use ORIGINAL parts, No Excess, 200km radius towing.  Agreed Value clause...  This package by MSIG is called HONDA INSURANCE PACKAGE.  

Click the link below for more information:

honda_insurance_package

Basically this is the FINAL YEAR I get to enjoy HIP (Honda Insurance Package).  Thank God!  

 The Civic FD have 2 oil change using Castrol magnatac and Original Honda Oil filter, 1 ATF Change and 1 driver side power window change apart from Annual Road tax and Insurance renewal.  Very reliable and low maintenance car.   

Above: 450 litres boot space with 60:40 split folding rear seats (Below).

 

 This is the Only Generation Civic in Malaysia with 60:40 split fold rear seats.  The latest Civic FC have 60:40 split rear seats BUT in USA, Indonesia and Australia only.

Over the past year, the Civic Clocked 9500km only.  It's rarely used as My dad, was working Oversea 1/2 of the year.  And I've been driving my Hyundai i10 daily.  The Civic thus, relegated to Tuesday night (fetching people to Church) and Sunday car.  You see, i10's a Cute and Friendly car.   This Civic On the other hand's Stressful and always kena Bully.  How?

1) People deliberately Not give way despite giving signal.  Close gap on purpose.  The i10 from far people gave way already.

2) People challenge you for a Race.  Especially Vios, Elantra, Myvi, Civic FB, Modified Wira.

3) Bumper to bumper crawl, Civic kena picked on.  The i10 people give way.

4) Low slung seating position than i10 makes me insecure and more blind spots.  Stressful.

My opinion on this Honda Civic FD2 2.0S IVTEC:

The 8th generation Civic FD's the last Civic With Double wishbones suspension, only Civic with 60:40 split fold rear seat back and the Most stylish Civic inside out. This is the Best Civic.  Apparently, Malaysians agree with me as reflected by it's Strong Resale Value. First batch 2006 Civic FD are still selling at RM40,000 to RM46,000 depending on conditions. That's Mind boggling for a 10 years old Car.  An astounding 52% retained value in 8 years and 40% retained value in 10 years.   This is the reason why my dad's Keeping the Civic for another few years.

SHOULD YOU BUY A USED CIVIC FD?

Why not?

Honda Civic in General are Extremely tough cars.  The 1st 3-generations are victim to Rust only. Many Civic from the 4th generation EF onwards (1987 to 1991) are still running on Malaysian roads.  The 4th-Generation's where Rust-proofing extensively applied by Kah Motor.  There are Still many 5th and 6th generation on the road which are between 16 to 24 years old yet the EG (Dolphin) and EK (Taai Ngan Chai) still Desired by Ah Bengs.  Average lifespan of a Civic unless Total-loss or stolen are 20 years!!!  So say you bought a used 2008 model, on average the Civic FD can last you another 12-14 years.

Above: Note still Stock Standard 6-disc In-dash CD/MP3/WMA CD-Changer Head unit with Aux and Volume adjust according to Speed or Noise.  Eg. The higher the speed or engine noise, the higher the volume.  Also, Steering wheel Audio control. 

Without further ado, let's proceed to Logbook.

Purchase price: RM126,000 (less NCB)

Current value: RM56,000.

- 9 years depreciation: 45% retained value

Interest rate: PBB 2.35% (back in July 2008) for 6 years loan.

LAST INSTALLMENT: July 2014.  

Mileage last update: 135,800km. July 28 2016.

Mileage Today: 145,300km

Km used last 12 months:9500km

Mileage per month: 792km  (12 month Average)

Average Mileage per month past 108 months: 1345km only.

FUEL CONSUMPTION (July 29, 2016 to July 29 2017):

Best: 14.2km/L  80% highway/20% city, driven by my dad Petronas RON95. 

WORST: 9km/L (Shell RON95) 80% City/20% Highway driving driven by ME.

Average FC: 11.2km/l

ALL TIME:

Best: 15.35km/l (RM0.12/km) (90% highway driving) (20 August 2010)

Worst: 7.1km/l (80% City driving, 20% HARD DRIVING) (October 27, 2012)

PERFORMANCE:

0-100km/h: 9.2 seconds normal acceleration (8.9 seconds with paddle-shift)

Top speed: Max I driven is 190km/h but I know it can go up to 227km/h. Someone from Youtube tried it.

EXPENSES Last 12 months:

1) Roadtax And Insurance Renewal: RM810.40 + 381.00 = RM1,191.40

2) Changed ATF Brake fluid: 100+20 = 120

3) 2 oil change.  Castrol magnatac (average 150 per oil change incl. Oil filter and Washer drain plug.

4) Driver side power window motor RM250

5 Petrol and Toll...

6) Other expenses...  Such as PVC Floor mat, Car Ionizer, Custom made Driver side seat cover.  Total less than 1k over 1 year. 

Before I go, here's my parting shot:

That's all folks, thanks for having the time and patience to read this blog entry.  An Original Jefferson Lim's production.  Copy like a man, don't plagiarize.

LONGTERMER 2: 8th year report: Honda Civic FD2 (Season 2, vol 2)

In this blog entry, I'm posting my Family's ride.  I called it Season 2 volume 2 because I haven't been updating it since March 31 2014.  This is the 8th year or 96th month we owned the Honda Civic FD2 2.0I-S. 

 The reason why it hasn't been updated for 16 months is because very little things to write about.  Apparently, this is a Very Reliable car.  My cousin was surprised to learned that the Engine mountings and Rear Double Wishbones Suspensions are still Factory Fitted.  His 3 years Old Preve CFE already changed 1 set Engine Mountings and 1 set absorbers.  We stopped servicing with Honda on the 5th year owning the Civic.  Anyway for your reference, maintenance cost of the Civic FD2 without Hidden wear and tear stuff like Rear Wheel bearing, Absorbers, Brake pads.

Only Major highlight's the Civic FC (Fuel Consumption) improving.  This is mainly because last 6 months my dad drove to Penang 3 times, Genting 3 times, Ipoh once.   Now averaging 11km/l.  OR 410km per 37litres fuel.

On the 11 May, I sent the Civic to Tiong Nam Motor for 2 front Airbags replacement.  The whole process took 3 hours only.  I reached there 8:30am.  Car ready by 12:10pm.

 I was told by the Service Adviser the passenger side dashboard dismantled to reach the airbag.  After changing the Airbags, the Popped up A-pillar cover still remained the same.  This issue Came with the Civic from Day 1, July 28 2008.

Thank God the side airbag's not affected.

On Mid-May, our Civic FD2 reached a milestone.  Mileage 133,333km.

More Interior shots:

Above: Note still Stock Standard 6-disc In-dash CD/MP3/WMA CD-Changer Head unit with Aux and Volume adjust according to Speed or Noise.  Eg. The higher the speed or engine noise, the higher the volume.  Also, Steering wheel Audio control.  Below: Like new Steering and gear knob.  Paddle shifters and Cruise Control.

 Above: 480 litres boot space.  Only Civic with 60:40 split fold rear seats.

 

 Above, the Unique yet expensive Wipers.

Exterior shots:

Above: Engine shot taken days before the "IVTEC DOHC" emblem dropped off.

On the Mid-June, my dad Changed 2 Dunlop SP Sport LM704.  It's Made in Thailand Tyres.  RM300 per piece including GST.  1 month later, 3rd week of July, my dad came back for another 2 tyres change.  This time Tayar shop said STOPPED bringing in these Dunlops. 

It so happened, my sister's buddy was a Used car dealer, she recommended a Tyre shop in Klang called GW Xtra Auto services.  The service's Excellent.  Tyre's Cheapest.  Goodyear Excellence 215/45R17 for RM480 including GST (RM240 each).  What a bargain.

We also feedback to the shop saying there's a "Whoo... Whoo..." sound while cruising.  After testing, the problem's caused by Rear Wheel bearings (both sides) defects.

Above: Still factory fitted rear double wishbones suspension and rear absorbers.   

Changed RM260 per side.  both sides RM520.00.  The touching part was the workers brave heavy rain to change the bearings.

 

 

 

 Above and below: Old tyres.  Yokohama Advan DB.

 Above: New Goodyear Excellence tyres.

 Fresh, week 19, 2016 tyre.

My opinion on this Honda Civic FD2 2.0S IVTEC:

The 8th generation Civic FD's the last Civic With Double wishbones suspension, only Civic with 60:40 split fold rear seat back and the Most stylish Civic inside out. This is the Best Civic.  Apparently, Malaysians agree with me as reflected by it's Strong Resale Value. First batch 2006 Civic FD are still selling at RM45,000 to RM52,000 depending on conditions. That's Mind boggling for a 10 years old Car.  An astounding 52% retained value in 8 years and 40% retained value in 10 years.   This is the reason why my dad's Keeping the Civic for another few years.

SHOULD YOU BUY A USED CIVIC FD?

Why not?

Honda Civic in General are Extremely tough cars.  The 1st 3-generations are victim to Rust only. Many Civic from the 4th generation EF onwards (1987 to 1991) are still running on Malaysian roads.  The 4th-Generation's where Rust-proofing extensively applied by Kah Motor.  There are Still many 5th and 6th generation on the road which are between 16 to 24 years old yet the EG (Dolphin) and EK (Taai Ngan Chai) still Desired by Ah Bengs.  Average lifespan of a Civic unless Total-loss or stolen are 20 years!!!  So say you bought a used 2008 model, on average the Civic FD can last you another 12-14 years.

Without further ado, let's proceed to Logbook.

Purchase price: RM126,000 (less NCB)

Current value: RM66,000.

- 8 years depreciation: 52% retained value

Interest rate: 2.35% (back in July 2008) for 6 years loan.

LAST INSTALLMENT: July 2014.  FINALLY!

Mileage last update: 100,888km (March 31, 2014)

Mileage May 2016: 133,333km

Mileage today: 135,800km.

Km used last 16 months:34912km

Mileage per month: 2182km  (16 month Average)

Average Mileage per month past 96 months: 1415km only.

FUEL CONSUMPTION (April 2014 to July 29 2016):

Best: 13.9km/L  80% highway/20% city, driven by my dad Petronas RON95. 

WORST: 9km/L (Shell RON95) 80% City/20% Highway driving driven by ME.

Average FC: 11.2km/l

ALL TIME:

Best: 15.35km/l (RM0.12/km) (90% highway driving) (20 August 2010)

Worst: 7.1km/l (80% City driving, 20% HARD DRIVING) (October 27, 2012)

PERFORMANCE:

0-100km/h: 9.2 seconds normal acceleration (8.9 seconds with paddle-shift)

Top speed: Max I driven is 190km/h but I know it can go up to 227km/h. Someone from Youtube tried it.

EXPENSES Last 12 months:

1) Roadtax And Insurance Renewal: RM1115 + 381.00 = RM1496

2) Changed Rear wheel bearings: RM520

3) Changed 4 215/45R17 tyres: 

- 2 Dunlop Sport LM704 - RM600 and

- 2 Goodyear Excellence: RM 470

4) 2 times Oil change Semi Synthetic.  Using Castrol Magnatec.  (Unknown, dad who serviced)

5) Silicon Wipers: RM80.

Before I go, here's my parting shot:

That's all folks, thanks for having the time and patience to read this blog entry.  An Original Jefferson Lim's production.  Copy like a man, don't plagiarize.