LONGTERMER 2: 125th month report: Honda Civic FD2 2.0iS

LONGTERMER 2: 10th year and 5 months report: Honda Civic FD2 (Season 2, vol 4)

In this blog entry, I'm posting my Family's ride.  The Honda Civic FD
2 2.0 IVTEC.  I called it Season 2 volume 4 because I haven't been updating it for
 1 year and 5 months.  This is the 125th month we owned the Honda Civic FD2 2.0I-S.  

Update: 29 December 2018.  The Engine mounting, Compressor and Rear Double wishbones still factory fitted.  Though the Compressor showing signs of failure, intermittently blowing hot air.  How to take care of compressor (dad's tips):

1) Change your cabin filter every 20,000km
2) don't full blast the air cond, don't use Auto air-cond.  Dad's fave temperature 25 deg. Celsius at 1/3 fan speed.
3) Don't on the aircond for 1st 2km (Also off air-cond before ignition off)
4) When driving to Genting (uphill) off the air cond.  Blower only.

The reason why it hasn't been updated for 17 months is because there's very little things to write about.  Apparently, this is a Very Reliable car.  

My Colleague was surprised to learned that the Engine mountings and Rear Double Wishbones Suspensions are still Factory Fitted.  

His 5 years Old Elantra 1.6 already changed 1 set Engine Mountings and 1 set absorbers.  We stopped servicing with Honda on the 6th year owning the Civic.  Anyway for your reference, maintenance cost of the Civic FD2 without Hidden wear and tear stuff like Rear Wheel bearing, Absorbers, Brake pads.

Nothing much to update.  Firstly, The Good news.   Last year, I walked to Kah Motor CSL's just across the road to submit quotation.  Lo and behold, No LOADING.  Also, NO Betterment, use ORIGINAL parts, No Excess, 200km radius towing.  Agreed Value clause...  This package by MSIG is called HONDA INSURANCE PACKAGE.  

Click the link below for more information:

honda_insurance_package

Basically last year was the FINAL YEAR I get to enjoy HIP (Honda Insurance Package).  Thank God!  This year,  I decided to go 1 Up.  Bypass Kah Motor and renew Direct from MSIG Insurance.  I still don't get loading.  And I got 10% Discount!  

 The Civic FD have 1 oil change using Castrol magnatec and Original Honda Oil filter, 1 Brake fluid Change apart from Annual Road tax and Insurance renewal.  Very reliable and low maintenance car.   

Above: 450 litres boot space with 60:40 split folding rear seats (Below).

 

 This is the Only Generation Civic in Malaysia with 60:40 split fold rear seats.  The latest Civic FC have 60:40 split rear seats BUT in USA, Indonesia and Australia only.

Over the past 17 months, the Civic Clocked 9,858 only or 580km per month only.  It's rarely used as My dad, was working Oversea 1/2 of the year.  And I've been driving my Hyundai i10 daily.  RECENTLY, past 6 months, dad came back more often, hence using the Civic More frequent. 1 Penang drive, 2-3 outstation drive and Occasional Genting run.  

Minor trim wear and tear as below:

My opinion on this Honda Civic FD2 2.0S IVTEC:

The 8th generation Civic FD's the last Civic With Double wishbones suspension, only Civic with 60:40 split fold rear seat back and the Most stylish Civic inside out. This is the Best Civic.  Apparently, Malaysians agree with me as reflected by it's Strong Resale Value. First batch 2006 Civic FD are still selling at RM36,000 to RM42,000 depending on conditions. That's Mind boggling for a 12 years old Car.  An astounding 52% retained value in 8 years and 40% retained value in 10 years.   This is the reason why my dad's Keeping the Civic for another few years.

SHOULD YOU BUY A USED CIVIC FD?

Why not?

Honda Civic in General are Extremely tough cars.  The 1st 3-generations are victim to Rust only. Many Civic from the 4th generation EF onwards (1987 to 1991) are still running on Malaysian roads.  The 4th-Generation's where Rust-proofing extensively applied by Kah Motor.  There are Still many 5th and 6th generation on the road which are between 16 to 24 years old yet the EG (Dolphin) and EK (Taai Ngan Chai) still Desired by Ah Bengs.  Average lifespan of a Civic unless Total-loss or stolen are 20 years!!!  So say you bought a used 2008 model, on average the Civic FD can last you another 10-12 years.

Above: Note still Stock Standard 6-disc In-dash CD/MP3/WMA CD-Changer Head unit with Aux and Volume adjust according to Speed or Noise.  Eg. The higher the speed or engine noise, the higher the volume.  Also, Steering wheel Audio control. 

Without further ado, let's proceed to Logbook.

Purchase price: RM126,000 (less NCB)

Current value: RM51,000.

- 10 years depreciation: 40% retained value

Interest rate: PBB 2.35% (back in July 2008) for 6 years loan.

LAST INSTALLMENT: July 2014.  

Mileage last update: 145,300km. July 28 2017.

Mileage Today: 154,858km

Km used last 17 months:9,558km

Mileage per month: 563km  (12 month Average)

Average Mileage per month past 125 months: 1238km only.

FUEL CONSUMPTION (July 29, 2017 to December 29 2018):

Best: 14.7km/L  80% highway/20% city, driven by my dad Petronas RON95. 

WORST: 9km/L (Shell RON95) 80% City/20% Highway driving driven by ME.

Average FC: 11.3km/l

ALL TIME:

Best: 15.35km/l (RM0.12/km) (90% highway driving) (20 August 2010)

Worst: 7.1km/l (80% City driving, 20% HARD DRIVING) (October 27, 2012)

PERFORMANCE:

0-100km/h: 9.2 seconds normal acceleration (8.9 seconds with paddle-shift)

Top speed: Max I driven is 190km/h but I know it can go up to 227km/h. Someone from Youtube tried it.

EXPENSES Last 12 months:

1) Roadtax And Insurance Renewal: RM689.40 + 381.00 = RM1,070.40
2) 1 oil change.  Castrol magnatac (average 150 per oil change incl. Oil filter and Washer drain plug.

4) Petrol and Toll...

5) Other expenses... 

Before I go, here's my parting shot:

That's all folks, thanks for having the time and patience to read this blog entry.  An Original Jefferson Lim's production.  Copy like a man, don't plagiarize.

The top 40 best Vehicles Resale value (updated 18/12/2018)

PRESENTING: The top 40 best Vehicles Resale value (updated 18/12/2018)

NOTE 18/12/18: This is Private sale price.  This DOES NOT factor Trade in price.  For trade in price less 10% to 20% depending on car as used car dealers also need to make money.  

Don't be fooled by Mudah or Carlist Used car dealer lowish price.  Eg. They advertised RM50,000 for a 2015 Elantra.  But, in reality, the car's 2014 YM (declared 1 year newer), need to add RM3800 "football money" (typically) + insurance.  So on a save side Prepare at least 5k-6k on top of advertised fee.  If you want to avoid this, try buy from Direct buyer.

I NOW PRESENT my research on used car retained value after few years. It took me 3 months to gather and compile the used car prices from various sources of classifieds namely Motortrader, The Star Classifieds, Carlist, and random visits to car dealerships/Recond car showrooms… 

Here are the vehicles shown with their Retained value in PERCENTAGE (%) within 3 years… (and 5 years/7 years in bracket). This is for Local (eg. Tan Chong) AND/OR Official Distributors (eg. Mercedes Benz Malaysia (MBM)) cars only. AP Imports to be covered later as their New car price were determined by AP Importer themselves, Ie. It varies, so I just estimated their new price to make this statistic possible, it’ll be unfair if I mix REAL results and estimated results together.

NEW for 2018.  7 years depreciation / retained value.

NOTE: Overall Peugeot, Hybrids, VW and Proton experienced dropped in their resale value. 

Hybrids because fear of Battery replacement and reliability concerns.  And dragged down by Used car dealers.  They "scare" hybrid owners to trading in for say RM30,000 but resell at much higher price.

Peugeot and VW's because of their Poor after-sales and perceived Mechanical Issues. 

Also, due to demands by Grab Drivers and proven reliability, Hyundai Starex  Resale value improved by 5-10% depending on Specs.

 Biggest winners are Honda.  All Honda models have improvements in their Resale Value. 

In fact, Honda Civic FD2R Type-R hardly depreciates.  7 years still holds 75% retained value.


{0%} = LAST YEAR % depreciation and Ranking

[#1] = Last year ranking

NEW JOINT WINNER OF THE BEST RESALE VALUE CROWN!!!  Honda Civic Type-R and Perodua MYVI!

Photo source: Carlist.my.

Ranking.......Make/Model.........3 yrs (5/7 yrs) 

1) [NA] Honda Civic FD2R Type-R    -NA-/-NA-/70% (official import ends 2011)

(NO.1 for 7th year depreciation)

1) [#3] Perodua MYVI Lagi Best: 78%/64%/54%  (No.1 for 3 years depreciation)

1) [#1] Honda City 1.5 IVTEC - 78%(65%/53%) (no 1 for 5 years depreciation)

(No.1 for 3 years depreciation)

2) [#4] Honda Jazz 1.5 VTEC 75%/74%(64%/52%) {74%/74% (66%)}

3) [#2] Honda Civic 1.8 IVTEC and 2.0IVTEC 70%/70%(66%/66%/56%/56%) 

(2nd for 5-7 years depreciation.  In fact Civic FD 2011 same RV as Civic FC 2013 due to higher demand)

4) [#7] Toyota Hilux 2.5D4D and Fortuner 75% / (63% / 57%)

4) [#16] Toyota Vios 1.5 - 75%/63%/57%)

4) [#12]  Perodua ALZA 75%/63%/57% (Thanks to Grab driver demand)

9)  [#6] Toyota Innova 2.0G and Avanza 73%/(61%/51%) 

9) [#13] Mitsubishi Lancer GT and Triton 73%/(60%/50%) {=}

10)  [#28] Hyundai Starex Royale 2.5 CRDi 73% / ( 63%/53%) 

-TOP 10-

12) [#16] Nissan NV200 /C22 Vannete 72% /63% /57%) {=}

(No.3 for 5 and 7 years depreciation)

13) [13] Proton Inspira 70%/(62%/54%) {74/62%}

14 [#14] Toyota Altis 70%/(60%/52%)  {70% (60%)}

15) [14] Suzuki Swift 1.5 70%/60%/50% 

16) [#NEW] Honda CR-Z: -NA-% (58%/50%)

16) [#16]  Honda CRV 70% (58%/50%) (Unchanged)

16) [#16] Ford Ranger 70%/(58%/50%) {70% (52%)}

19) [#NEW] Nissan Almera 1.5  70% (58/46%)

20) VW POLO / Vento - 70%/(58%/46%) 

20) [#20] VW GOLF GTI 70%/(56%/46%)

-TOP 20-

22) [#24] Mercedes C200/C250 68% (55%/49%) 

23) [#8] Toyota Camry 2.0G/2.4 VVTI 70%/(56%/48%)   / 66%/(52%/44%) [68% (54%/46%) average]

24) [25] Hyundai i10 1.25 and i30 1.8 (68%/54%/44%) {Unchanged}

25) [#22] Mazda 2 1.5 and Mazda 3: 68%/(50%/40%) 

26) [NEW ENTRY] Hyundai Elantra 1.6/1.8 - 67%/55%/47%

26) [#27]Kia Cerato/Forte 1.6SX 4sp Auto 67% / (55%/47%) {Unchanged}

28) [#18] Nissan Frontier and NAVARA (67%/55%/47%)
28) [NEW] Nissan X-trail 67%/55%/47%
30) [#31] Honda Accord 2.0/2.4 - 65/63%/(55%/53%/45/43%) {averaged = 67% (55%/44%)}
TOP 30

31) [NEW] Subaru XV - 65%/(53%/-NA-%)

32) [#23] Mazda 6 2.0 [2.5]%  65%[62]/50%/42% 
33) [NEW] Volvo V40 T4/T5 - 65%/49%/NA 

34) [#28] Hyundai Santa Fe and Tucson - 2.0 - 64%/(50%/40%) 
34) [35] Nissan Teana 2.0/2.5/3.5 V6 averaged among 3 models = 64% (50%/40%)

34) Toyota Prius 1.8 Hybrid and LEXUS CT200 Hybrid  -NA-%/(50%/44%)

37) [36] Mercedes A-class 64% / (48%/42%)

38) [NEW] Proton Exora - 64%/54%/44%

39) [NEW] Proton Persona and Saga BLM - 63% / (53%/43%) {NEW ENTRY}

40) [NEW] Hyundai Sonata and Kia Optima K5 - 63%/51%/43%

TOP 40...

 OTHERS (Selected) - (5 yrs retained value in bracket)

- BMW 3-series Coupe [63%/(53%)] and BMW 325i CKD 55%/(45%) = Avg: 59% (49%) 

- BMW 5 series 55% (45%)

- Renault Fluence: 58%/50%/NA

- Peugeot 308 VTI/TURBO 50% / (40%/32%)
- Peugeot 508 1.6 THP  53% /43/35%
- Peugeot 3008 50%/40%/30%
- Peugeot 5008 57%/42%/30%
[NEW] Peugeot 408 1.6 THP 54% / 44% / 37%

Note: 

1) Persona, Saga BLM and ALL OTHER PROTONS = RM3,000 per year depreciation 3rd year onwards until 10th year, After 10 years 5 to 10% depreciation each year only (depending on condition and mileage).  So it's GOOD to buy Say a 2000 Wira 1.6, 2004 Gen-2 OR 2003 Waja 1.6 for 6,000 as it STOPPED Depreciation).  Last 4 years also costs RM6000.

2) Hyundai Starex, Toyota Avanza, Perodua Alza, Nissan Almera, Toyota Vios and Proton Exora 

Huge improvement in RV due to GRAB drivers demand.

AP/Grey Imports (TOP 10 best resale value vehicles):

Again, I can’t determined the Actual new car prices of these cars as it’s Determined by the AP Holders/Grey importers. But I found that it’s safe to say for example Toyota Alphard 2.4’s New car price: RM280,000 with 5% +/- allowance depending on specs (ie. RM266k to RM294k), hence I used this as my estimation to come up with the percentage (%) of retained value results in 3 years (5 years in brackets).

1) Mini Cooper/S/Clubman/Countryman 75%/65/55%

1) Toyota 86/Subaru BRZ   75%/(65%/-NA-)
3) Honda Odyssey/Stream (recond) 70% (65%/55%)
4) Porsche Cayman 70% (64%)/52%
5) Toyota Wish: 70% (60%)/52%
5) Toyota Mark X 70% (60%)/52%
5) Subaru WRX STI  - 70% (60%)
8) Toyota Harrier 2.4 67% (55%/49%) 
9) Mazda MX5 65% (57%)/50%
10) Toyota Estima 63% (59% for a recond 5yrs old)/47% (for used 7 years old)
10) Toyota Alphard 63% (59% for recond 5 yrs old)/47% (for used 7 years old)

THAT’S ALL FOLKS! Hope this STATISTICS will be helpful for you in shopping for your ideal used cars… Again, it took me 3 months to come up with these statistics… You should thank me for it…

Wait till you see the WORST Resale value car.  Click on the link Below:

https://otoreview.blogspot.com/2018/12/worst-resale-value-cars-updated-181218.html

2018 Hyundai Ioniq Review What's changed? (Updated 18/5/18)

2018 stock Available NOW!!!  Price HEV Std Now at RM100,328 OTR  RM94,788 Without Insurance
while 2018 HEV+ AVN price now RM116,488 OTR  RM109,988 Without insurance.

UPDATE: 

Price "Drop" due to 0 Rated GST valid for the month of June only.  Apparently Raya Goodies.  By July 1,  SST 10% comes in price as below (as at 19/5/18):

RM103,988 for HEV Std 
RM120,088 for HEV+ AVN


Inventory stock as at 18 May 2018:

HEV Std: 1.5 month waiting list OR Mid July.  Please call 012-6852-718 OR click direct jeffersonlim.wasap.my for latest waiting list.

HEV Plus AVN: All colour available.  Around 5-10 units per colour.


What’s new for 2018?

1) improved meter cluster.  The Distance to empty now Blue hue and Sports mode rev meter Redline now 5500rpm instead of 6500rpm.


 

 Above: Welcome door and puddle lamp in action.  Many potential customers asking me to demo this.

Above: Brighter Rear fog light.

2) redesigned rear seats - 3cm more headroom

3) 30 liters Bigger boot space as Repositioned and redesigned Li-Polymer Aux battery - with reset switch





4) Redesigned 240v Electric motor - slightly more compact


Introduction: The Ioniq is SKD in Kulim, Kedah, hence qualified for the EEV Status. It's Price to sell at RM100,328 for HEV Std.

PRICE Stated RM94,223 OTR Basic Car Price for HEV Std with Accessories But Without GST, Road tax, Registration fee and Insurance. RM103,000 OTR ALL IN OTR for HEV and please call/whatsapp for HEV Plus AVN price.

LAST CALL: Free 3 Years or 60,000km Maintenance! Free 4 mil security tinted... 3 more free gifts.

TERMS apply.

HEV stands for Hybrid Electric Vehicle. It's FULL HYBRID powered by a Combination of Atkinson 1.6 Kappa GDI Engine with 105ps and 147Nm torque and 43.5ps and 170Nm Electric Motor (Dual Power source). Combined Output 141ps and 265Nm torque. It can run on Water cooled Inverter Motor (EV) up to 120km/h.

The Ioniq's based on New Elantra AD platform including 2700mm wheelbase. But the similarity ends here. This is a Dedicated Hybrid Aerodynamic body designed to Compete with Prius 4 Hybrid. It's available in 3 variants. EV 0-emission car, Hybrid Petrol and Plug in Hybrid.
In Malaysia, only, Hybrid Petrol's available.

 Iron Grey.  Most popular colour.  Cause it blends with the Rim.

 Above: Marina Blue.

 Above: Aurora Silver

 Above: Sleek Silver

 Above: Phoenix Orange.  Rare Limited edition colour.

 Above: Phantom Black.

Colour Choices:


FEATURE HIGHLIGHTS:

1) FUN TO DRIVE yet Save Fuel:
It boast's 2 World's 1st in HEV Segment. Multi-link suspension and 6-speed DCT (Dual Clutch Transmission).

2) HOMEWORK DONE: By Studying Toyota Prius Hybrid as benchmark. Top Engine Thermal efficiency at 40% (25% Competitor) and EV motor powered by Compact Li-ion Polymer battery (like Tesla). (Ni-MH Competitor) Water Cooled HSG Inverter Motor (Air cooled Competitor). 520 VDA litres expandable to 750 litres after 60:40 Split fold rear seats. Boot space achieved by Placing the battery under the Rear Seat.

3) AERODYNAMICS: The Ioniq boasts Cd.0.24 thanks to:
- Active Aero 3 stage Front Grille Shutter
- Wheel Air curtain
- Flat Fiber Underbody Cover
- Aero 17" Sport Rims
- Rear Spoiler
- Sleek Fastback Profile.

4) WELL SPEC'CED:
- Dual Zone Air Cond with Unique "Driver Only" and IONIZER.
- QI Wireless Charging slot (HEV Plus only)
- Bi-Xenon LED Headlights and LED Tailights (HEV Plus Only)
- 7" Dual Boot OEM and Android OS with Papago NAVI and Reverse Camera (HEV+)
(Not available this batch. For future batches)
- Leather Seats with Blue stitching (HEV Plus only), OEM Fabric Seats for HEV Std.

5) ADVANCED SAFETY: This is achieved thanks to:
53.5% AHSS (Advance High Steel Strength) vs Prius 16%
- widely used at passenger compartment structure, minimize cabin deformation
- Hot Stamping on B-pillars (heat up to 900 deg Celsuis before stamping)
- Adhesive technology (eg. Aluminium + AHSS)
- 7 Airbags on BOTH Variants
- VSM - Vehicle Stability Management Across the Range

The following features are for HEV Plus only:
SCC (Smart Cruise Control) - Operates from 40km/h to 180km/h. Controls your Speed, Acceleration and Distance.
BSD - Blind Spot Detection and RCTA (Rear Cross Traffic Alert)
LDWS and LKAS - Lane Departure Warning System and Lane Keeping Assist System.
AEB: Autonomous Emergency Braking. Note the AEB Can detect Pedestrian too... Up to 70km/h or below 80km/h.
Electric Adjustable Driver seat.
Welcome light and puddle lamp.

PERFORMANCE AND ECONOMY
Fuel consumption tested 3.7/100km. or 26.8km/l Mixed driving. 45 litres fuel tank good for AT LEAST 900km.  Customer feedback.  Photo as proof:

Top speed 208km/h (Tested by CAR Journalist)
0-100km/h in 10.8 seconds
0-50km/h in 3.1 secs
0-120km/h in 13.7 secs.

If you want to buy this car, Look for Jefferson Lim at 012-6852-718. Test drive by appointment only. Location: One Auto Marketing HQ, Behind Southgate Sg.Besi.

Toyota HiLux fails emergency swerve test – UPDATE

Not My work: Article written by Mike Costello.  source:
 http://www.caradvice.com.au/493858/toyota-hilux-fails-emergency-swerve-test/

The Toyota Hilux, Australia’s top-selling light commercial, has dramatically under-performed in a European extreme handling evaluation called the ‘moose test’.

Swedish publication Teknikens Värld put the new-generation Toyota HiLux through the test last month and found something “seriously wrong”.

The test saw the publication (which regularly conducts such a manoeuvre) load the car to 830kg, drive to 60km/h and then aggressively swerve left and right.
The test is designed simulate an extreme evasive manoeuvre under load. The reason for the name is self-evident: moose are huge, and are to be evaded.

(Photo Credit: Glenn Lindberg/Teknikens Värld)

As you can see in the image, the Toyota dangerously cocked its right wheels before driver Oskar Krüger pulled it into line.

The problem was deemed to be a result of tyre grip and the absence of an anti-rollover system, given the suspension didn’t bottom out.

The red test car was running on 265/60 tyres on 18-inch wheels (like those on the popular SR5 spec in Australia).

A later test with less grippy 265/65 hoops on 17s yielded a slightly better result, though the inside wheel still raised up. Both sported traction control.

Rivals such as the Ford Ranger, Mitsubishi Triton, Nissan Navara, Volkswagen Amarok and Isuzu D-Max went over the same test at slightly higher speeds without anywhere near the same drama.

Staff reporter Linus Pröjtz slammed the HiLux, saying that little had changed since the previous iteration was tested in 2007.

“Nine years has passed, nothing has evolved. This extremely dangerous behaviour shows itself at 37mp/h, the competitors like Amarok and Navara can do it at 42mp/h and are not showing anything close to that behaviour,” he said.

The conclusion drawn? “Something is seriously wrong with Toyota’s dynamic security, and the result depends on the tires the car has”, the testers said.

UPDATE: Toyota Sweden responded to the test with the following statement:

“Based on all the tests carried out during development, we are confident that the Toyota Hilux is a safe vehicle.

“As we understand, you have performed an evasive manoeuvre tests in your newspaper testing protocols on a series pickups, including the Toyota Hilux.

“You have informed us that the Toyota Hilux is not living up to your expectations. We were surprised by the test results, and we will take your assessment very seriously, just as we take the capacity for evasive manoeuvres as serious in the development of our vehicles.

“Hilux has been repeatedly tested according to ISO 3888 standard for evasive action test during the development of the model and then have passed the tests successfully.

“Several technical parameters have an impact on the outcome of an evasive manoeuvre, so we want to better understand the exact parameters for your test.”

We have contacted Toyota Australia for comment.

The HiLux sold here has standard traction and stability control, airbags for all occupants, reversing camera and the maximum five-star ANCAP crash rating.

UPDATE:

Toyota Australia statement.

“At Toyota, the safety and security of our customers remains our number one priority.

 “Toyota takes the report published by the Swedish automobile magazine, Teknikens Värld, on this emergency-avoidance test seriously and we are currently in discussions with the publication to find out additional details about the test.”

MORE: Teknikens Värld source story
MORE: Toyota HiLux comparison tests against all rivals

That's all folks, thanks for having the time and patience to read this blog entry.  Again, This is not my work. Source:

1) http://teknikensvarld.se/nya-toyota-hilux-ar-nara-att-valta-338160/

2)  http://www.caradvice.com.au/493858/toyota-hilux-fails-emergency-swerve-test/

PRESENTING: The top 30 best Vehicles Resale value

PRESENTING: The top 30 best Vehicles Resale value (updated 30/9/2013)

NOTE: This is Private sale price.  This DOES NOT factor Trade in price.  For trade in price less 10% to 20% depending on car as used car dealers also need to make money.  

I NOW PRESENT my research on used car retained value after few years. It took me 3 months to gather and compile the used car prices from various sources of classifieds namely Motortrader, The Star Classifieds, www.Autoworld.com.my, and random visits to car dealerships/Recond car showrooms… 

Here are the vehicles shown with their Retained value in PERCENTAGE (%) within 3 years… (and 5 years in bracket). This is for Local (eg. Tan Chong) AND/OR Official Distributors (eg. Mercedes Benz Malaysia (MBM)) cars only. AP Imports to be covered later as their New car price were determined by AP Importer themselves, Ie. It varies, so I just estimated their new price to make this statistic possible, it’ll be unfair if I mix REAL results and estimated results together.

1) VW GOLF GTI 80%/(68%) AND VW POLO GTI 80%/(68%)
2) Honda Civic 1.8 IVTEC/2.0IVTEC 80%/75% (70%/65%)

3) Toyota Prius 1.8 Hybrid    80%/(*55%)   

[* = Pre-2011 costs RM165,000 hence higher depreciation]
4) Perodua MYVI 1.3 SX/EZ: 76%/75%/ (66%/65%)
5) Toyota Vios: 75% (65%) 
5) Toyota Avanza: 75% (65%)
5) Toyota Hilux 2.5D4D & Fortuner 75% / (65%)
8) Toyota Camry 2.0/2.4 VVTI 74%/70% (64%/58%) 

8) Honda Jazz 1.5 IDSI/VTEC 74%/72% (66%)

10) Toyota Innova 2.0G 74%/(64%)

10)  Honda City 1.5 VTEC 74% (64%)

(Top 10)

12) Ford Fiesta 1.6S  74%/(62%)
13) Mitsubishi Lancer GT and Triton 74%/(60%)
14) Suzuki Swift 1.5 73% / (63%) 
15) Toyota Altis 72% (62%)
16) Nissan C22 Vannete 71% (63%)
16) Ford Ranger & Everest 71% (63%)
18) Nissan Sylphy 70%/(58%)
18) Mazda 5 MPV: 70% (58%)
20) Honda Stream 70% (55%)

20)  Honda CRV 70% (55%) 
(TOP 20)

22) Mazda 3 1.6 & 2.0: 70% / (54%) AND Mazda 2 1.5 70% / (54%) 

23) Mazda 6 2.0 [2.5]%  70% [66%]/ (54%[50%])  

24)  Mercedes C200K/C250 69% (57%)

25) Nissan Frontier, X-trail and NAVARA 68% / (56%)
25) Proton Satria Neo 68%/(54%)
25) Perodua Viva 68%/54%

28) Hyundai Starex Royale 2.5 CRDi 67% / ( 55%)

28)  Hyundai Tucson - 2.0 67% (55%)
28) Kia Forte 1.6SX 4sp Auto 67% / (55%)
30) Honda Accord 2.0/2.4/3.5 V6 averaged among the 3 models = 67% (55%)

 OTHERS (Selected) - (5 yrs retained value in bracket)

- BMW M3/330i Coupe (69%) & BMW 325i CKD (55%) = Avg: 61% (49%) 
- BMW 5 series 55% (45%)

- Chevrolet Optra 50% (35%) 

- Ford Focus 2.0 S - 64% / (48%)
- Mercedes E-class 64% / (50%)

- Nissan Teana 2.0/2.5/3.5 V6 averaged among 3 models = 67% (53%)

- Proton Savvy - 60% / (50%)
- Proton Saga BLM 60% / (50%)

- Waja Campro CPS: 60%/ (50% - CAMPRO)  

Note: 
1) Honda Insight launched in 2011.  Resale value to be determined by Next update October 2014.
2) Waja and ALL OTHER PROTONS = RM3,000 per year depreciation 3rd year onwards until 10th year, After 10 years 5 to 10% depreciation each year only (depending on condition and mileage).  So it's GOOD to buy Say a 1995 Satria 1.6 for 6,000 as it depreciates V-E-R-Y SLOW).
3) Peugeot 308VTI / 308 Turbo / 508 / 3008/ 5008 also to be determined by Next update Oct 2014.


AP/Grey Imports (TOP 10 best resale value vehicles):

Again, I can’t determined the Actual new car prices of these cars as it’s Determined by the AP Holders/Grey importers. But I found that it’s safe to say for example Toyota Alphard 2.4’s New car price: RM280,000 with 5% +/- allowance depending on specs (ie. RM266k to RM294k), hence I used this as my estimation to come up with the percentage (%) of retained value results in 3 years (5 years in brackets).

1) Mini Cooper/S/Clubman 75%/65%

2) Mitsubishi EVO 9 (8/7.5) -NA- 73%/(63%)
3) Honda Odyssey 70% (65%)
4) VW Beetle 2.0 70% (64%)
5) Toyota Wish: 70% (60%)
5) Toyota Mark X 70% (60%)
5) Subaru WRX STI Ver 8 70% (60%)
8) Toyota Harrier 2.4 67% (55%) 
9) Mazda RX8 and MX5 65% (57%)
10) Toyota Estima 63% (51%)
10) Toyota Alphard 63% (59% for recond 5 yrs old)

THAT’S ALL FOLKS! Hope this STATISTICS will be helpful for you in shopping for your ideal used cars… Again, it took me 3 months to come up with these statistics… You should thank me for it…

NOTE: 30 Sept 2013, Proton Saga BLM revised, Persona revised, Toyota Prius, VW Golf GTI and Mitsubishi Lancer GT Added, Kia Forte, Mazda  6 2.5 and  Mazda 5 added.

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WORST RESALE VALUE CARS!!!